Well after serious thought I’ve abandoned the Disqus comment system in favor of the less glamorous but far more link friendly Comment Luv plugin. I’ve been using Disqus here for the past four months and was quite happy with it overall except for one major issue. All comments are nofollow. Since blogs are developing as a massive community the majority of bloggers are looking to network with other blogs that will help them grow their reach and increase their backlinks. Comment Luv is the obvious choice for me. The vast majority of my blogging friends use Comment Luv and have encouraged me to use it.
I had a brief conversation with some of my blogging friends over at Blogger Luv and Gail Gardner from growmap.com left me a pretty helpful response, “Personally, I prefer CommentLuv but I can see some benefits to using IntenseDebate or Disqus. I do have some comparison posts you may find helpful:
- Comment Luv, Disqus or Intense Debate
- Which Blog Comment System Do You Use
- Blog Commenting: Comment Luv, Disqus or Intense Debate
Ironically, I noticed that all three of those bloggers who wrote comparisons are now using CommentLuv. That might be a good indication that there is a reason many of us prefer it over the others.”
Indeed I did find those posts helpful and would encourage anyone else considering this move or wondering what comment system to use on their blog to read them. A word of advice, spend a little time and research the varying systems and make a decision early on in the life of your blog. Readers don’t like to see blogs that change everything all the time. There are few things more annoying than a blog that is constantly changing its theme or overhauling their look. Readers get comfortable with the way things are, disrupting your commenting system by changing it up for something better could have both pros and cons. But in the long run I think this change will be beneficial.
John Sullivan the brain behind Blogger Luv told me “Having your comments on any 3rd party besides your site makes no sense. Sure some have cool little features that make it enticing to have those features added, but the LINK between YOU and YOUR Visitors and related sites is the whole name of the game and where the strength of a site comes in.”
Comment Luv also features an entire network and some pretty neat options for you as a blog owner or as a commenter. Want to promote your blog with Comment Luv? Take a look at their network to find out more, here.
UPDATE (October 31, 2010)
After some further interaction with some fantastic bloggers (see the comment thread), I thought I’d update this post and let you know the various plugins that ended up being present on this blog to affect and improve the commenting system:
Comment Luv (this is the key, adds the link friendly option to include your latest blog post in your comment)
Do Follow (Since comment luv doesn’t inherently make comments do follow, this plugin takes care of that)
TwitterLink Comments (adds option to put your twitter username into the comment)
Subscribe to Comments (a great plugin that gives commenters the option to subscribe to comments by email)
After I removed Disqus I had a short lived panic attack when I discovered that for some reason my blogs theme didn’t allow for threaded comments and replies. This was a serious but shortlived concern, when I began cleaning up some old plugins, and removed a few that were no longer in use the REPLY option magically came back, and the threads all went into place. I wasn’t expecting that to happen so I’m not sure what caused the conflict, but it is fixed now.
Tell Me What You Think
So there you have it. As you can see Disqus is out and Comment Luv is in. So what do you think, was this a good move? Are there additional tips / advice you could offer to improve the aesthetic appearance of the comment section?
76 comments
John Soares says:
Oct 30, 2010
Daniel, it’s great to see CommentLuv here.
Note that you’ll need to install the DoFollow plugin if you want your blog to be DoFollow. CommentLuv is great, but it doesn’t remove the NoFollow tag from post comments.
Daniel Snyder says:
Oct 30, 2010
That’s the advice I need! Thanks John. This is certainly a learning process, and it seems a challenge at times to pull all the information I need into one place. Thanks for the tip!
Patricia@lavenderuses says:
Oct 30, 2010
Hi Daniel
Welcome to the commentluv community. I am fairly new to blogging but have found them incredibly helpful and friendly. They have supported me in so many different ways. Techie help, encouragement visiting my blog and commenting, RT my posts the list goes on.
I’m sure your traffic will go up to as your blog will be exposed to the whole commentluv community. Thanks for sharing.
Daniel Snyder says:
Oct 30, 2010
Well I’m feeling pretty positive about this move! Thanks for the encouraging words. I was a little uninspired by the shift at first as Comment Luv and their website is not that aesthetically pleasing… I found setting up my account over there to be unnecessarily difficult. But I’m still optimistic! Traffic will be the key, and I’m happy to be a dofollow comment blog now! 🙂
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Oct 30, 2010
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chris Burns says:
Oct 31, 2010
I’ve been using Intense Debate myself. I’ll be interested to see how you feel about comment luv in 30 days. Please write another post and update us. If you find it better than disqus good maybe I’ll switch too!
I’m not too encourage by the “difficult setup”. Maybe that is feedback they can take and work to improve.
Daniel Snyder says:
Oct 31, 2010
Well I’m seriously considering fiddling with Intense Debate, since now that I’ve abandoned Disqus I’m struggling with the comments setup that my theme offers. I’m not prepared to change themes right now, so in order to get proper reply and threaded comments I may need to go to Intense Debate… since it allows for use with Comment Luv I’m not all that opposed to it.
Vernessa Taylor says:
Nov 1, 2010
Hi Chris – It only takes a few minutes to install the CommentLuv plugin. It doesn’t take the place of Disqus, so to speak. You can see what it does for you when you look at the bottom of your comment and see your last post. You can install and use the CommentLuv plugin without doing very much setup. You get immediate benefits! Just grab it from the WordPress repository or install it via your WordPress plugin menu.
I think Daniel was speaking about “setup” in terms of becoming a free member. (Daniel, correct me if I’m wrong.) Membership carries with it some super-cool benefits. Then setup is primarily a matter of completing a few fields, after which are some other benefits that you can learn about at your own pace. Go for it!
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 1, 2010
Yeah you’re right Vernessa. The actually setup of the plugin is a piece of cake – and took only minutes. The Comment Luv website registration was another story for me.
Justin Germino says:
Oct 31, 2010
There definitely is no reply on this theme, but some sort of “quote” which I haven’t seen before. This is probably from Theme itself and nothing to do with CommentLuv Plugin
Daniel Snyder says:
Oct 31, 2010
Wow look at that. I don’t even know what I did, but was fiddling with various plugins and got rid of some, and now the ‘reply’ button has magically appeared. Wasn’t expecting that, so can’t really track it back to a specific action… oh well, I’m happy with it for now. 🙂 thanks for your tips!
Justin Germino says:
Oct 31, 2010
Commenting system is much better now.
Lee says:
Oct 31, 2010
Maybe I never ‘got’ Disqus but I diteched it some time ago and went back to my blog’s standard comment system.
The only possible drawback of using the Do Follow plugin, which I’m sure you’re probably aware of, is that it offers some encouragement to comment spammers as I found out myself when I tried it in the past.
Daniel Snyder says:
Oct 31, 2010
Well I’m aware of the potential for increased spam, so I’ll keep my eye on things. @dragonblogger just recommended a plugin in the below comment, so I’ll take a look at that. Right now I’m using akismet.
Justin Germino says:
Oct 31, 2010
Use the Growmap Anti Spambot Plugin for WordPress instead of Akismet and you will never see a comment spam in your pending again, I swear I have been using the plugin for about 3 weeks and it is one of the best. I dont’ use Akismet or WP-Spamfree anymore now, just GASP to block and weed out spam comments. I highly recommend it.
Daniel Snyder says:
Oct 31, 2010
Good tip! Thanks Justin. I have been using akismet. I’ll keep an eye on things, and make the switch if need be for sure.
Alison Moore Smith says:
Oct 31, 2010
Personally, I have never liked Disqus. It makes commenting more cumbersome, IMO.
OTOH, I really like and have used CommentLuv for some time. However, it’s pretty buggy. Very often it can’t find posts for blogs or it says a blog is unregistered — even though it is. Wish it was more reliable.
Daniel Snyder says:
Oct 31, 2010
I too have noticed that Comment Luv misses on registered blogs. It’s happened to me regularly as a commenter on other blogs. 🙁 I think Comment Luv is a one man show though, and it looks like he does it in his extra time… so, as far as that goes – he’s got a lot of blogs and people depending on him! Hope he can tweak the bugs soon.
DO FOLLOW LUV says:
Oct 31, 2010
Is it time to abandon Disqus? Yup….
Well after serious thought I’ve abandoned the Disqus comment system in favor of the less glamorous but far more link friendly Comment Luv plugin. I’ve been using Disqus here for the past four mon……
John says:
Oct 31, 2010
Hey Daniel,
Commentluv was one of the first plugins I installed when I converted over to wordpress. Glad to hear that things worked out as far as getting the threaded comments back in working order I would have probably had a panic attack as well!
Congrats on the move and hopefully you’ll be receiving many more comments! 🙂
Daniel Snyder says:
Oct 31, 2010
Thanks John! Yeah I hope this move increases comments as well. I’m already feeling pretty happy about it. Just needed a few hours to sit and focus. I guess having the flu this weekend resulted in some good things. 🙂
John Soares says:
Oct 31, 2010
@Chris Burns: I think I saw a site using both Intense Debate and CommentLuv.
Thiru says:
Oct 31, 2010
WoW ! Cool, comment system Dani. Me too fee not so comfort with disqus. It looks great…Good luck for your new commenting system.
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 1, 2010
Thanks Thiru, liking it so far! Disqus made me happy… Comment Luv is making me happier! 🙂
Vernessa Taylor says:
Nov 1, 2010
Hi Daniel, I formerly used Disqus, too. I didn’t abandon it in favor of CommentLuv as they serve different functions. I ditched it as a commenting system because of the comments being managed by a 3rd party took away my control, it was a horror to look at once integrated into most themes, and it wasn’t as easy for people to comment as it should have been. But I still use the Disqus RSS feed to pull in comments from other Disqus-enabled blogs that I’ve left a comment on.
That said, glad you’re using CommentLuv and have joined the ComLuv network so you can take advantage of the many marketing benefits available to you. I was wondering if you’ve put in a support ticket for the issues you’ve experienced when trying to use it? And I think your feedback about the interface would be valuable and maybe help it improve it in the long run.
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 1, 2010
Vernessa, you’re right about the 3rd party managing the comments being an issue – I understand that aspect, and it was a motivating factor in ditching Disqus. I never have a problem commenting on other blogs with the Disqus system, I find it as simple as anywhere else, more or less… and will continue to be indifferent when commenting elsewhere (I don’t let the comment system or dofollow etc… affect whether I leave a comment or not). I hadn’t submitted a support ticket because it’s not really a bug that I was experiencing, rather just unimpressed with their website layout and the path one must take to setup your account, it all seemed kind of sloppy to me.
Suresh Khanal says:
Nov 2, 2010
This is a great move Daniel. CommentLuv has been so hot, that a blog without it looks a very old faced. I guess Disqus needs to think about adding these plugins in its system for it to sustain. Welcome to the commentLuv community.
Next thing, I’ve used and can suggest you confidently to use GASP as you’ll see no spam comments immediately after you install it.
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 2, 2010
Yeah I’ve heard about GASP repeatedly now, it sounds like it is TOP NOTCH… looks like I’m going to have to do the install 🙂 thanks Suresh for your comment!
Tuan says:
Nov 3, 2010
Your comment section looks great now, why do you need IntenseDebate or Disqus? They only make commenting more difficult for readers, I tried it before and then removed it immediately.
Btw, you should use the ReplyMe plugin instead of the Subscribe to comments plugin.
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 3, 2010
Tuan, I have both the Reply Me and Subscribe to Comments plugin installed. I thought I could run both. Should I disable Subscribe to Comments? They don’t work well together?
Tuan says:
Nov 3, 2010
Of course you can run both of them, but when readers check on the box to receive follow-up comments, they will receive 2 notifying emails. I think using both is not necessary. 🙂
Btw, I don’t see the checkbox of the Subscribe to comments plugin here.
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 3, 2010
Tuan, as I mentioned to Mike above I’m having plugin issues with the subscribe and reply me plugins… don’t know what’s up. Will work on it though!
Bryan says:
Nov 3, 2010
Hi Daniel,
Welcome to the CommentLuv community. I think the Comluv community is ever growing one. You can actually go to the main website and have a look at the increasing number of people actually using them. I was once like you using Disqus but the trouble with it is that most people didn’t have it and they had to register to Disqus before being able to comment on it.
I think this multi step process is a turn off to most folks out there, and I had a lot of 0 comments or a few comments on my post because of that, so I’ve decided to drop it off completely and go for CommentLuv, never regret making making the shift though.
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 3, 2010
No regrets for sure. Though aesthetically I don’t find it quite as pleasing, it has already increased my comments (in less than a week), in fact I noticed a shift on day one! I’m quite happy with Com Luv. Thanks for your comment by the way!
Darran says:
Nov 3, 2010
I have to admit that I was thrown into a state of confusion at first. I don’t think CommentLuv actually qualifies as a commenting system. The way I see it, what it does is simply add a link to the most recent blog post of the author in his comment.
From what I see, you are running WordPress as your commenting system with CommentLuv as an add on. With that aside, I do think CommentLuv is a must have in every blog’s commenting system. With it, you are actually giving back the commenter something in return.
The only reason I am using IntenseDebate is because of the email notifications. And yes, the synchronization of data is decent but at times it is just crap.
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 3, 2010
Darran, agreed – not sure where the lines got crossed here, but Comment Luv certainly is not a commenting system, it’s just a simple plugin… the key here is that it doesn’t work with Disqus. Intense Debate is a commenting system I’m a fan of, but I can’t go with the third party stuff anymore… (i need control I guess!) 🙂 thanks for your feedback.
Mike says:
Nov 3, 2010
I think the comment system right now at your blog is awesome. In fact, I don’t know how you can display Reply and Quote buttons whenever I mouse-over any comment 🙂 What plug-in do you use?
I don’t see a Subscribe to comments button here at your blog. In my opinion, you should install a plug-in that notifies commentator whenever someone replies to his comment as well. I’m using ReplyMe plug-in now. It’s quite helpful 🙂
Gabriele Maidecchi says:
Nov 3, 2010
Thanks for mentioning the ReplyMe plugin Mike, just installed it, was looking for something similar since a while
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 3, 2010
Mike – the mouse over reply/quote buttons are part of my theme (Fusion), that’s it… no plugin. So that’s a pretty sweet perk for this theme. I’m having some plugin issues with Subscribe to Comments and Reply Me… I’ve not been able to get Reply Me working for some reason and have to figure out what the conflict is. For now I’m just sticking with Subscribe to Comments.
Gabriele Maidecchi says:
Nov 3, 2010
I totally support your decision, in fact I blogged about my switch as well and I am quite happy with my decision.
The value added by the wonderful community behind CommentLuv is priceless, far more than any fancy commenting system.
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 3, 2010
Thanks Gabriele, I’m only just starting to see the tip of the iceberg here with the Comment Luv community – it’s exciting though, I’m looking forward to connecting further with other Com Luv bloggers!
Ileane says:
Nov 4, 2010
Yipee!! Another CommentLuv convert. Thanks for ditching Disqus. You’ll see an increase in interaction on your blog and I’m glad you worked out all the bugs. The only thing I would change on your blog (thiss something I need to do also, that’s why I noticed) is put your image somewhere above the fold.
Now let’s see which one of us ends up doing that first. 🙂
Have a great day Daniel!
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 4, 2010
Ileane, thanks for the feedback. So you think it is important I place my personal avatar on the top half of the homepage? Can you explain more?
Andy Bailey says:
Nov 4, 2010
Great article and it reads really well on my mobile device!
Thanks for the write up, I’m really glad you’ve decided to go with commentluv. John is right, letting some 3rd party site handle and hold your comments is a crazy idea. You’re much better off keeping control of your site content.
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 4, 2010
Thanks Andy! Pretty exciting to see you over here and get a comment from you too! 🙂 … CommentLuv is making me happy!
Devesh says:
Nov 4, 2010
Great post Daniel and welcome to the commentluv community man.
Actually your simple comment system looks much better then disqus. I’ve used disqus on one of my blog but never like it.
Thanks. keep up the good work.
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 4, 2010
Cool, you think it looks better than Disqus! That’s great. I’ll take it.
element321 says:
Nov 4, 2010
Great article. I am glad you got rid of Disqus for CommentLuv. I hate commenting on Disqus systems. Some of my favorite sites just started using it and I have stopped commenting on them now.
I rarely comment on blogs with disqus installed, just because its slows things down and I just dislike the system enough, I rather not deal with it unless its important.
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 4, 2010
Thanks man! Appreciate the feedback – comments like this remind me that I did the right thing! I will still comment on other blogging systems (disqus, intense debate etc…) because I have accounts with all of them it is fairly easy for me, and I like to support bloggers no matter what plugins / platforms they use.
Michele Welch says:
Nov 4, 2010
I’ve been trying to switch over to commentluv for some time now and also have run into technical issue with threaded comments!
Haven’t had time to work it out yet, but hoping to do so this weekend.
But I agree, although Disqus had been very good to me it doesn’t allow for me to switch over to a dofollow blog. Also really would like to use the G.A.S.P plugin which only works with the default comment system.
Great post Daniel!
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 4, 2010
Sounds like all the things you mentioned are the issues I’ve been grappling with – up till recently – … I’m very happy with the shift, and am thrilled with the increase in comments (it’s amazing!). Hopefully you figure out your threaded comments issue… it would suck to have to start from scratch, but I can honestly say that it may just well be worth it.
Robert Bravery says:
Nov 4, 2010
I use Disqus and am pretty happy with it. The “NoFollow” debate for me is still out.Is it Good is it not. I don’t know. It certainly discourages people from high jacking your comments just to get some free link juice.
I do like the last Blog post CommentLuv has. But that should not be too difficult to include in Disqus.
Thing is, you have to select one that is right for you. No one system is perfect. You have to way up the pro’s and cons and then decide
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 4, 2010
Unfortunately Comment Luv does not work with Disqus, that is the main reason I removed Disqus. I’d been using it for a long time and was happy with it – but I gotta say since removing it comments on my blog have EXPLODED! People love Comment Luv and they love the link juice – it gives solid incentive to comment. You’re right though, no one system is perfect. Thanks for your feedback!
Scott Bergman says:
Nov 7, 2010
Hi Dan, one of the things you mentioned in this article was how you shouldn’t be changing the look and feel of your site to often. I hadn’t given that much thought, and have been changing things on my sitequite often, but thinking back, it is irritating when sites change too much. Thanks for the advice.
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 7, 2010
Hey Scott, you know I’m not saying you shouldn’t make changes at all (obviously), as I just made some modifications tonight to my theme. But, what I think is key is total overhaul design changes… these are valid, and even necessary every so often, of course sites need to adapt to the changing internet, but some sites just change far too often. Rotating themes, shifting your ad placement around constantly, and changing the placement of key links is a bad idea. Try to keep those things consistent – if possible – and your readers will stay content knowing where things are at. Thanks for your feedback, and glad you were positively influenced! Chat soon.
Portsmouth Photographer says:
Nov 15, 2010
Yes very good point and I am up and running with CommentLuv now- A great plugin for WordPress- Grant
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 15, 2010
Awesome Grant! PS. As a photographer check out my buddy @brentparlee on twitter, he’s an aspiring photographer with some great work!
Corporate Photography says:
Nov 16, 2010
Hi Daniel – checked out Brent he has lots of potential- Not sure what is going on with CommentLuv today- site must be down. Grant
Daniel Snyder says:
Nov 16, 2010
Grant, looks like you squeezed into the CommentLuv downtime window… 🙁
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Mitch says:
Dec 10, 2010
I welcome you to the community of non-Disqus! Whether you went with commentluv or not, I think you’ll feel much freer and notice way more comments from people without it.
Daniel Snyder says:
Dec 11, 2010
Thanks Mitch! And my comments here have tripled since I said goodbye to Disqus… It’s been a great move, probably the best decision I ever made for this blog.
Doc Sheldon says:
Dec 19, 2010
Hi, Daniel- A day late and a dollar short here, but that’s never stopped me before! 😉
I started out with CommentLuv, but as others have said, it was a little buggy, and inconsistent. I decided to try Disqus, and am still with it.
I did want to point out one thing…. Disqus will not be nofollow if you use the NoFollowFree plugin. I actually had that since the very beginning, and it works fine with Disqus.
I’m not thrilled with the 3rd party management of comments, either. But Disqus at least is consistent, and so far (knock on wood) has been trouble-free.
Daniel Snyder says:
Dec 20, 2010
Hey Doc – thanks for sharing about the NoFollow plugin that works with Disqus. That does make things easier! Still, I’ve got a surprising amount of feedback from users who simply refuse to comment on Disqus blogs because it is ‘extra work’ (apparently). I do enjoy the Disqus system aesthetically and will comment on any blog no matter what comment system they have… since I have disqus and intense debate accounts I’m good to go anywhere on the web.
John Dimo says:
May 5, 2011
Interesting. I had no idea that Disqus blocks links with a nofollow tag. This would explain why I see backlinks (using google’s webmasters tools) on some sites and not on others that I know I’ve commented on. Indeed, it’s those sites where disqus is being used that the backlinks are blocked.
Time for me to rethink about using disqus for my blog’s commenting system.
Daniel Snyder says:
May 5, 2011
Hey John. Also remember that webmaster tools is not going to bring back an exhaustive list of backlinks. Matt Cutts has discussed this to explain that the list of backlinks shown in webmaster tools is more a ‘selection’ than a complete list.
John Dimo says:
May 5, 2011
Really? I did not know this. Off to Google Matt Cutts and do some research on the subject. Thanks for the quick response and advice.
Cindy Lavoie says:
Jun 7, 2011
Very helpful. You just pushed me into action. I’ve been hearing about CommentLuv but hadn’t gotten around to taking any action. Now I’ll take the plunge – thanks!
Daniel Snyder says:
Jun 8, 2011
Great Cindy! Glad this post motivated you. I’ll be visiting your blog to see how the change goes. 🙂
starfall says:
Sep 30, 2011
I was really wondering about the disqus, its not that friendly to used to some people, but comment love is a total package we need. Simple yet powerful plugin to used.
andkon says:
Nov 10, 2011
For me, disqus is so weak, nothing more greater than comment luv and keyword luv. This plugins are so helpful and it drives traffic more than disqus.
Hockey Coach says:
Dec 3, 2011
Interesting comments. I have had nothing but a positive experience with Disqus, but I think I need to look into the comment about driving more traffic with luv.
johne celina says:
Dec 25, 2011
i am looking for something which can help me to find option for handling spam comments ….
John M says:
Jan 16, 2012
I use askimet and captcha with good results for stopping would be blog comment spammers. Some still do make it through but they are easily deleted with just a few clicks. I’ve tried various robots in the past but they tend to remove legit comments as well. Not much you can do thats fool proof, just put up a few barriers and delete the rest by hand.
Corporate Photographer says:
Mar 30, 2012
We are thinking of relaunching our blog and definitely going to try commentluv. I did not find the best anti spam filter just yet but will share it once its tried and tested.